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« dnia: Lipiec 19, 2016, 16:12 »
Czyżby się szykowała nowa bezzałogowa misja amerykańska na Księżyc?

Taiwan is building a $47 million lunar lander as part of the first ever moon-mining project, officials said Monday.

The lander, to be made by the island's Chung-shan Institute of Science and Technology, will carry a rover and touch down on the moon's surface after a three-day journey from Earth......


 It is the first time Taiwan has built a lunar lander. CSIST is required to deliver the 3.7-tonne vehicle to NASA before the end of 2018, according to the agreement signed between Taiwan and the US space agency.

NASA is due to launch the moon-mining mission early in the 2020s.


http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Taiwan_to_make_lunar_lander_for_NASA_moon-mining_mission_999.html

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« Odpowiedź #1 dnia: Lipiec 19, 2016, 21:24 »
Czyli to wygląda na łączoną tajwańsko-amerykańską misję? Brzmi ciekawie, ale chyba nie było jeszcze oficjalnego potwierdzenia ze strony NASA?

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« Odpowiedź #2 dnia: Styczeń 27, 2019, 23:55 »
27 kwietnia 2018 misja została anulowana.

NASA argues Resource Prospector no longer fit into agency’s lunar exploration plans
by Jeff Foust — May 4, 2018


NASA said that Resource Prospector, a one-off, short-duration mission, did not fit into a new lunar exploration plan that emphasized more frequent missions flown on commercial landers. Credit: NASA

WASHINGTON — NASA says it decided to cancel a lunar rover mission last month despite a renewed focus on lunar exploration because that one-time effort did not fit into a plan that emphasizes a much higher cadence of missions, initially flown commercially.

In a May 3 statement, NASA said it decided to cancel Resource Prospector, a mission still in its early phases of development to study water ice and other volatiles at the lunar poles, because it was not suited to its Exploration Campaign, NASA’s concept for a series of missions that will initially use small, commercially developed landers, followed by larger landers.

“This project was intended as a one-time effort to explore a specific location on the Moon, and as designed, now is too limited in scope for the agency’s expanded lunar exploration focus,” the agency said of Resource Prospector in a statement. “NASA’s return to the Moon will include many missions to locate, extract and process elements across bigger areas of the lunar surface.”

NASA confirmed April 27 that it was cancelling Resource Prospector, a day after an open letter to new NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine by lunar scientists questioning the reported cancellation. The agency said at the time, and confirmed in the new statement, that selected instruments from Resource Prospector will fly on commercial landers.

The April 27 announcement also coincided with the release of a draft request for proposals for its Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) program, where the agency will acquire accommodations on commercial landers under development for payloads like Resource Prospector instruments.

“We’ll leverage commercial capabilities for these small payload deliveries, and CLPS missions will play an important role in our expanding and sustainable lunar exploration strategy,” Bridenstine said in the May 3 statement. He is scheduled to speak at a May 8 industry day at NASA Headquarters about the CLPS program.

Other NASA executives offered similar views. “Resource Prospector was formulated in a totally different environment, including under a totally different policy,” said Steve Jurczyk, NASA acting associate administrator, at a May 1 meeting of the National Academies’ Space Studies Board here. “It was a very focused mission with a fairly short duration.”

Jurczyk said that a shift of lunar missions to the agency’s Science Mission Directorate (SMD) has created a desire to do more missions than a one-off concept like Resource Prospector, even though early missions are unlikely to be as sophisticated as that rover mission planned to be. Those new missions, he said, will be coordinated with NASA’s space exploration and technology directorates.

“What are the set of missions that we really want to do to locate and then characterize, to see if we can exploit, resources, particularly water, on the surface of the moon?” he said. “We’re transitioning what we would do on Resource Prospector to a set of missions, starting with a set of instruments that were going to be on Resource Prospector. We’re going to evaluate those and one or more of those will probably go on these landers.”

Jurczyk added, though, that NASA planned an independent review of the decision to cancel Resource Prospector before going forward with this new approach. “We’re going to have one last look at it and say, ‘Did we make the right decision here? Or should we just go forward with Resource Prospector and its 14-day mission because it’s the right thing to do?’”

Assuming that review confirms the cancellation decision, NASA plans to move ahead quickly with a regular series of commercial lander missions. Jurczyk said that Thomas Zurbuchen, NASA’s associate administrator for science, wants to start flying two missions a year starting in 2019 and going through at least 2022.

“He wants to have two ‘shots on goal’ every year starting in 2019,” Jurczyk said of Zurbuchen. “We want to challenge industry to develop the first landers to deliver some amount of kilograms of science instruments and exploration instruments to the surface of the moon in ’19, in ’20, in ’21, in ’22.”

That pace, he said, offered redundancy should some missions fail. “If we send two and one doesn’t make it or crash lands, that’s okay,” he said. “We’ll learn from it, and then we’ll go fly again.”

Zurbuchen, speaking at the Space Studies Board meeting May 2, confirmed that NASA didn’t expect every commercial lander mission to be successful. “Our hope is to take one or two shots on goal every year,” he said. “A reasonable expectation is a 50 percent success rate at the beginning. It’s not zero, and it’s not 100.”

That expectation, as well as the limited payload accommodations on initial commercial landers — tens, rather than hundreds, of kilograms, he said — will put restrictions on the types of payloads NASA will fly on those landers. “The instrumentation needs to be appropriate for the tool that we’re using,” he said. “We’re not going to invest $100 million in an instrument, even if it fits into 10 kilograms. Not at the beginning.”

“We’re not going to be discouraged if the first one doesn’t work,” he added.

https://spacenews.com/nasa-argues-resource-prospector-no-longer-fit-into-agencys-lunar-exploration-plans/

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« Odpowiedź #3 dnia: Styczeń 27, 2019, 23:55 »
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NASA cancels lunar rover, shifts focus to commercial moon landers
May 1, 2018 Stephen Clark


The Resource Prospector prototype searches for a buried sample tube at the Johnson Space Center rock yard in August 2015. Credit: NASA

(...) The planned rover would have prospected the moon’s polar regions for resources that future missions, such as a lunar base or commercial mining ventures, could refine into oxygen, drinking water and rocket propellant. (...)

The Resource Prospector mission was planned for launch as soon as 2022, but the project never advanced beyond the early design and development stages. Engineers built a ground prototype for the rover to test remote operations concepts. (...)

Resource Prospector’s cancellation was “viewed with both incredulity and dismay by our community,” wrote Samuel Lawrence and Clive Neal, the chair and emeritus chair of the Lunar Exploration Analysis Group.

“We hope to get some insight into the decision that caused the cancellation of Resource Prospector and to get it reinstated as an exploration mission,” Neal told Spaceflight Now. “Prospecting to see if lunar resources are actually reserves is critical for enabling a thriving space economy and for making human space exploration to Mars sustainable.” (...)
https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/05/01/nasa-cancels-lunar-rover-shifts-focus-to-commercial-moon-landers/

A brief history of Resource Prospector, NASA's cancelled lunar mission
May 3, 2018


NASA / JSC, RESOURCE PROSPECTOR,  Resource Prospector is an Obama administration-era NASA concept rover to explore the Moon's permanently shadowed craters.

(...) Strange move or not, there's an irony here: Resource Prospector got its start during the George W. Bush administration, when NASA's goal was landing on the Moon! The mission managed to survive the Obama administration's Journey to Mars era—only to be axed once the Moon came back into play under President Trump. (...)
http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2018/20180503-resource-prospector-timeline.html

NASA scraps a lunar surface mission — just as it’s supposed to focus on a Moon return
By Loren Grush@lorengrush  Apr 27, 2018

But NASA says the cancellation is temporary


A version of Resource Prospector undergoing testing Image: NASA/Kim Shiflett

(...) NASA released a statement after this story’s initial publication, saying that some of the instruments from the Resource Prospector mission would be used in other missions that would land on the moon later. The response was oddly vague about the fate of the rover. “We’re committed to lunar exploration,” said Jim Bridenstein, NASA’s recently sworn-in administrator. “Resource Prospector instruments will go forward in an expanded lunar surface campaign.” The tweet, like the statement, made no reference to the rover itself. (...)
https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/27/17287154/nasa-lunar-surface-robotic-mission-resource-prospector-moon

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« Odpowiedź #4 dnia: Styczeń 28, 2019, 00:30 »
Skończyło się na gadaniu i modelu inżynieryjnym, szkoda, ale nie dziwi w sytuacji kiedy przez NASA Księżyc zaczął być odstawiany na drugi plan kosztem Marsa. Być może teraz, w dobie coraz większych sukcesów chińskiej astronautyki bezzałogowej, Amerykanom zapali się czerwona lampka w zakresie księżycowej eksploracji.
Największe osiągnięcie NASA w drugiej dekadzie 21 wieku? .... Logo ARTEMIS

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« Odpowiedź #5 dnia: Styczeń 28, 2019, 08:23 »
Wiesz, moze im sie juz nawte pali na czewrono, ze az parzy, tylko czy oni maja kase na te zabawy?
Wydawalo sie, ze ladowanie po drugiej stronie juz powinno ich "wlaczyc" a tu w sumie cisza i ... zwolnienia.
Pamietajmy, ze ostatnie amerykanskie zabawy w azji pochlonely juz prawie tyle, co dwa powroty ma Ksiezyc,
moga miec pusta kabze .... 
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« Odpowiedź #6 dnia: Styczeń 28, 2019, 10:22 »
Cisza była bo był government shutdown - formalnie pracownicy NASA nie mogli w ogóle nic robić, nawet wypowiadać się o pracy na social mediach.

Branża już widzi, że Chiny coraz więcej zaczynają robić, ale czy wiedzą już decydenci? ;)
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« Odpowiedź #7 dnia: Styczeń 28, 2019, 10:24 »
Cisza była bo był government shutdown - formalnie pracownicy NASA nie mogli w ogóle nic robić, nawet wypowiadać się o pracy na social mediach.

Branża już widzi, że Chiny coraz więcej zaczynają robić, ale czy wiedzą już decydenci? ;)

Jeśli pokazywali lądowanie Chang'e 4 na Fox News to tak! :D

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« Odpowiedź #8 dnia: Styczeń 28, 2019, 12:07 »
Ale na 5 minut na końcu wydania czy mówili o tym przez pół dnia? ;)
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« Odpowiedź #9 dnia: Styczeń 28, 2019, 12:35 »
Ale na 5 minut na końcu wydania czy mówili o tym przez pół dnia? ;)

Skoro Trump wiernym słuchaczem Foxa jest to może i załapał się na te 5 minut na końcu niusów  ;) A na poważne to przecież jest kontrakt na komercyjne bezzałogowe roboty na Księżycu ogłoszony przez NASA pod koniec listopada:

http://www.forum.kosmonauta.net/index.php?topic=3401.0

Więc istnieje poważna szansa, że USA wyślą swój nowy sprzęt w różne miejsca Księżyca. Może też poleci komercyjny odpowiednik Lunar Prospector? Zresztą NASA publicznie ogłosiła iż czeka na pomysły badań jakie miałyby być przeprowadzone na Srebrnym Globie. Więc myślę, że nie ma sensu użalanie się, że Chińczycy dogonili USA. Może nawet jak dogonili nie znaczy że Amerykanie komercyjnie nie odbiją księżycowej pałeczki za kilka lat. Bardziej poważną konkurencją dla USA będzie misja Chang'e 7 i 8 gdzie będą to projekty międzynarodowe. Chiny czekają też na zgłaszanie pomysłów na eksperymenty i urządzenia jakie mogłyby w tych misjach wziąć udział  :) Ja sobie wyobrażam Chang'e 8 jako robotyczną bazę księżycową,

http://www.unmannedspaceflight.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=44174

która z biegiem czasu stać się zalążkiem chińskiej lub chińsko-międzynarodowej bazy załogowej.  8)

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« Odpowiedź #10 dnia: Styczeń 28, 2019, 13:49 »
Amerykanie chowaja na razie asy w rekawie;-) Jak beda mieli juz SLS, komercyjne loty na LEO, zalazek komercji na
ISS i/lub pomoc wasali, to rusza;-) Teraz nie maja czym ... ;-) Z powazaniem
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