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Misje analogowe (zbiorczo)
« dnia: Lipiec 12, 2017, 09:04 »
(pusty post - tu będzie lista)

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« Odpowiedź #1 dnia: Lipiec 12, 2017, 09:06 »
Zaczynam wątek, ale do końca nie wiem jak taka lista powinna wyglądać.
Czy podzielić ją na "organizatorów" (np NASA, Chiny albo Mars Society) czy też podzielić względem typu misji?

Liczę na dobre wskazówki. :)

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« Odpowiedź #2 dnia: Lipiec 12, 2017, 09:14 »
A tu lista linków bez ładu i składu:
https://www.nasa.gov/analogs --> NASA
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/NEEMO/index.html --> chyba najbardziej znany przykład takiej misji w NASA
http://blogs.esa.int/caves/ --> dobre pytanie czy to też "tak czy nie" (można dać po prostu kategorię "inne" w liście)
http://exorion.eu/pl/ --> polski zespół (fundacja?) na MDRS
http://mdrs.marssociety.org/ --> MDRS
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Human_Spaceflight/Mars500 --> nie może tutaj zabraknąć eksperymentu izolacyjnego Mars 500

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« Odpowiedź #3 dnia: Lipiec 12, 2017, 18:40 »
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20160410/p2a/00m/0na/005000c - o ananlogu w centrum kosmicznym JAXA w Tsukubie
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Space_radiation_reproduced_in_the_lab_for_better_safer_missions_999.html - dusseldorf
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« Odpowiedź #4 dnia: Lipiec 12, 2017, 19:27 »
Dzięki!

Pytanie - może trochę głupie, ale się nie znam ;) - czy jest jakaś definicja misji "izolacyjnych" i "analogowych". Domyślam się, że jedno i drugie to nie to samo, ale gdzie jest jakaś granica w przypadku projektów o mniej lub bardziej kosmicznym celu?

Taki Mars 500 był z pewnością izolacją, ale jednocześnie symulował lot na Marsa i z powrotem.

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« Odpowiedź #5 dnia: Lipiec 12, 2017, 19:37 »
Chyba nazwa;-) BTW, nie drazylbym tematu, bo bedziemy musieli zaliczyc do tego tez ...
Eksperyment Stanfordzki;-) Z powazaniem
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« Odpowiedź #6 dnia: Lipiec 12, 2017, 20:28 »
Wykaz eksperymentów naziemnych po rosyjsku:

http://www.astronaut.ru/exper/exp0.htm
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« Odpowiedź #7 dnia: Lipiec 13, 2017, 08:55 »
Analog i izolacyjny, raczej kwestia na wyczucie.

Izolacyjny powiedziałbym że jest bardziej profesjonalny, i z zamkniętym obiegiem wszystkiego.
Analog to można wychodzić na zewnątrz - aczkolwiek np w skafandrach
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« Odpowiedź #8 dnia: Lipiec 13, 2017, 19:21 »
Wciąż jeszcze ta lista nie powstała, zatem możemy też tutaj na nasz użytek zdefiniować poszczególne pojęcia.

"Analogowa" - może taka, która odbywa się w jakimś odległym terenie + wychodzenie na zewnątrz symuluje warunki danej misji planetarnej?
"Izolacyjna" - siedzą w środku, nawet wyjście "na powierzchnię planety" to po prostu wejście do innej sali? Tak było w Mars 500...

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« Odpowiedź #9 dnia: Lipiec 17, 2017, 10:32 »
200 days on the 'moon': Second batch of volunteers enter China's 'Lunar Palace'
2017-07-10


Volunteers have work handover in the simulated space "cabin" Yuegong-1 at Beihang University in Beijing, capital of China, July 9, 2017. (Xinhua/Zhang Chenlin)

Four Chinese volunteers will live in a sealed, self-contained laboratory simulating a moon-like environment, for the next 200 days without any interaction with the outside world as Beijing prepares for its long-term goal of putting humans on the moon.

Their journey started on Sunday.

The lab, called "Yuegong-1" or "Lunar Palace," is a 160-square-meter cabin. It is the first such space developed in China, and the world's third bioregenerative life-support base.

The cabin is located at Beihang University, and the four volunteers follow the footsteps of another group of four who have just finished their initial stay of 60 days.

The "Lunar Palace" consists of a major living space and two plant cultivation modules. The major cabin covers an area of 42 square meters, while each of the plant cabins is 3.5 meters in height and 50 to 60 square meters in area.

The major cabin hosts four bed cubicles, a common room, a washroom, a waste-treatment room and an animal-raising room, according to a report by Xinhua News Agency. The system allows the four wannabe "astronauts" to conduct research, while their basic needs are met.

Human waste will be treated through a bio-fermentation process, and experimental crops and vegetables will be grown with the help of food and waste byproducts.

Eight people entered the capsule during the 10-hour transitional phase between the two batches of four volunteers on July 9, 2017. /Photo via Beihang University

The lab provided life support to eight people during the 10-hour transition between the two batches on Sunday, as a test of the system's ability of dealing with high-load human activity in a short time.

The experiment, code-named "Yuegong-365," is the second attempt of Beihang University to see how the Bioregenerative Life Support System (BLSS) works in a moon-like environment.

A successful 105-day trial was conducted in 2014.

According to researchers, the program could strengthen China's knowledge and technical know-how, and help the country's scientists understand exactly what will be required for humans to remain on the moon in the medium and long terms.

After the 200-day stay, the third batch will enter and live for another 105 days to accomplish this 365-day experiment.

http://www.ecns.cn/2017/07-10/264687.shtml

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« Odpowiedź #10 dnia: Lipiec 17, 2017, 22:33 »
Wydaje sie, ze link juz zamieszczalem: http://www.ibtimes.com/chinas-lunar-palace-ecosystem-capsule-brings-nation-closer-living-moon-1612882



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« Odpowiedź #11 dnia: Lipiec 20, 2017, 01:09 »
Goodbye HERA, Hello Sleep: NASA’s HERA XIII Crew Returns Home to Slumber
July 18, 2017


Moments after turning the vessel back over to NASA after 45-days inside, the HERA XIII crew is given their mission patch to place on the door.
Credits: NASA


After 45 days in NASA’s Human Exploration Research Analog (HERA), the four-man crew can hardly hold their eyes open. This mission was the first of its kind to last 45 days, as well as incorporate sleep reduction for research purposes.

“The sleep deprivation was really difficult,” said, James Titus, HERA crew member. “It really hindered our normalcy. We are used to working and living our lives at a higher level. During this mission the sleep reduction, the no-nap rule and limited caffeine – went hand in hand to really slow us down,” he said.

HERA is one of several ground-based analogs used by NASA’s Human Research Program (HRP) to research ways to help astronauts move from lower-Earth orbit to deep space explorations. A spaceflight analog is a situation on Earth that produces physical and mental effects on the body similar to those experienced in space. Participants are volunteers that must pass a physical and psychological assessment to qualify.

During this thirteenth HERA mission, crew members went through many of the motions of a real deep space mission without ever actually leaving the Johnson Space Center. This was the fourth in a series of studies, called campaigns, with progressively longer simulated mission lengths. In this campaign, this was the first of four 45-day simulated missions. Previous campaigns studied seven-day, 14-day, and 30-day missions. Longer mission lengths allow for more research studies and more data points relevant to longer duration spaceflight missions.


Flight Analog Program Manager, Lisa Spence, toasts with sparkling grape juice the HERA XIII crew for a successful end to the first 45-day mission.
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Several research studies utilize a limited sleep protocol for the four missions of Campaign 4. During Mission 1, crewmembers were allowed to sleep five hours per night, five days per week with a recovery period of two days where they could sleep eight hours each night. No naps and limited caffeine are included in this protocol.

This practice allows researchers to test the use of habitat lighting as a method of combating crewmember fatigue. It also allows for the evaluation of the usability of bio-mathematical models to predict crewmember fatigue. Team cohesion, performance, and interpersonal relationships are also tested under these conditions.     

Despite the no siesta rule, the crew took their mission tasks seriously. As with past crews, they particularly enjoyed the extravehicular activity (EVA) on an asteroid conducted with virtual reality technology. “It was fun learning to maneuver in three dimensions, and going through the decompression protocol just like a real astronaut would. It was fascinating to me,” said Timothy Evans, HERA crew member.

Not only are the HERA crews isolated from the outside world, they must unplug during their mission. “It was really a little bit disorienting,” said Mark Settles, HERA crew member. “You get in this mode of addressing electronic communications on a daily basis. It was like stepping back 20 years by having a reduced level of constant input of demands on your time from electronic communication.”

This was a rather competitive group. One of their tasks was to use the robotic arm to grab a transport vehicle while dealing with sleep deprivation. They had 12 chances to do so and were given a score on their efforts. “The score was very important to all of us. We’d strive to get better. The ROBoT [Robotic On-Board Trainer] and cognition had a level of inter-competiveness with us,” said John Kennard, HERA crew member.

When asked their favorite thing to do while on the mission, there was a consensus: Sleep. They also enjoyed playing board games and watching movies together while not working on mission tasks. Upon splashdown at the end of the simulated mission, they planned to call their families and grab some greasy, salty fast food. But soon afterward, they all planned on catching some Zs!

Mission 2 of Campaign 4 will begin on Aug. 5. The Test Subject Screening group is accepting curriculum vitaes (CV) for healthy, non-smoking volunteers, ages 30 to 55 for future missions. Volunteers will be compensated and must pass a physical and psychological assessment to qualify. Volunteers wishing to become test subjects should e-mail their CV to jsc-hera@mail.nasa.gov or call 281-212-1492.

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NASA's Human Research Program (HRP) is dedicated to discovering the best methods and technologies to support safe, productive human space travel. HRP enables space exploration by reducing the risks to human health and performance using ground research facilities, the International Space Station and analog environments. This leads to the development and delivery of a program focused on: human health, performance and habitability standards; countermeasures and risk-mitigation solutions; and advanced habitability and medical-support technologies. HRP supports innovative, scientific human research by funding more than 300 research grants to respected universities, hospitals and NASA centers to over 200 researchers in more than 30 states.

Monica Edwards
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https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goodbye-hera-hello-sleep-nasa-s-hera-xiii-crew-returns-home-to-slumber

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« Odpowiedź #12 dnia: Wrzesień 04, 2017, 22:51 »
Mission XIV Aug.5 - Sept. 18, 2017:

HERA XIV‏ @HERA_XIV  27.08
MissionDay23: Mission abort. Abandon ship. @HERA_XIV crew safe n sound on real-life high ground. #Houston #Harvey

HERA XIV‏ @HERA_XIV  27.08
MissionDay23: @HERA_XIV crew thanks Mission Control for keeping us safe in #Houston in Hurricane #Harvey.

https://twitter.com/hera_xiv

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« Odpowiedź #13 dnia: Wrzesień 05, 2017, 15:08 »
Takie tam, niemcy zrobili pomidorki, ktoree docelowa beda hodowane an antarktyce i pewnie na ISS:
https://www.facebook.com/spaceedeniss/


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« Odpowiedź #14 dnia: Wrzesień 11, 2017, 15:50 »
Wykład: Analogowa Misja na Marsa
BY REDAKCJA ON 10 WRZEŚNIA 2017

23 września w ramach Strefy Psyche Ekstra w Centrum Hewelianum w Gdańsku odbędzie się wykład na temat analogowej misji marsjańskiej EXO 17. (...)

http://kosmonauta.net/2017/09/wyklad-analogowa-misja-na-marsa/